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CoD4's Best: Rob-Wiz and EG
Written by jockyitch   
Thursday, 08 May 2008

As a counterpoint to this week's episode of BASH (BASH 58: CoD4 Cyberevolves ), where we talked to Team Pandemic spokesperson Ted Ottey about the team's loss in CEVO-P North American Professional championship of CoD4, we thought we would get the winning perspective from the team that bested them: The Evil Geniuses.

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And we could not think of a finer representative of that team to talk to than arguably the finest CoD4 player on the planet today, Canada's own Rob-Wiz.

Visit competitive gaming forums across CallofDutyville and you will run across a growing number of posts that proclaim Rob's supremacy at the art of CoD4. With a growing legion of fans in North America and a large rooting section in Europe, not only is Rob a certified CoD-god, he is also becoming a CoD-star.

Rob-Wiz has bounced around a few FPS teams before settling with The Evil Geniuses (formerly known as The Doctors) and last summer (2007) when BASH first interviewed Rob, he was with Team Pandemic and playing CoD2. You can hear that interview here:

 



Just after our webcast, Rob decided to break with Team Pandemic and move on with his career. He described the move in this October 2007 interview with us. At that time, he joined The Doctors, a fabled team that featured original-CoD legend Wombat Larsen. The Doctors we learned were apparently moving into TF2 and that's where we left the story.
 
We recently contacted Rob and asked him to catch us up on how he and his teammates went from The Doctors to The Evil Geniuses - a team that is now the best in North America at CoD4.

 

BS: Rob, we lost track of you after you left Team Pandemic and got into the world of TF2 with The Doctors. What was the scene in TF2 like? Did you like the game? Was there a lot of competition?

rob-wiz: TF2 was a very fun game to play. All of us really enjoyed it and wish we could have kept playing, but there was almost no competition for us. The competitive community wasn't big to begin with and it slowly died so it was hard to find any scrims and there wasn't much competition for us.
 

BS: Was it hard to transition from CoD2 to TF2?

rob-wiz: The transition to CoD was fairly easy, but I think it took a little bit for us to be on top of our game, I think once we made the switch initially we still weren't used to the CoD style but we got the hang of it eventually.


BS: When CoD4 came out, The Doctors made a foray into tournament play - you played the Xfire tournament right off the bat. That transition must have been difficult, but surprisingly, you made it to the finals. Unfortunately you played a fired-up and ready Pandemic and they handily beat you. Did you learn anything from that match about them or about yourselves?

rob-wiz: Not really, we just took the loss and moved on. That Xfire tournament was played 4v4 so once it ended we had to add a player and get comfortable on all the maps with that extra guy, so everything we did in the Xfire tournament was changed considerably.


BS: In February The Doctors came on board with EG. Why did you make the move and why EG?

rob-wiz: Well we needed a sponsorship in order to go the upcoming lans, we knew EG was a big name sponsor and had the financial backing to send us to the events so we went with them, so far they've sent us to Nerv and I33 and we really enjoy playing under the EG name.

BS: What is the team chemistry like on the EG CoD4 team? You guys have some real  superstars:

Mark "wombat" Larsen
Chris "ntt" Gillett
Ted "w!$eGUy" Georgoudakis
Casey "maven" Capp

Are you guys friends outside of the competitive scene or do you just come together when you scrim?

rob-wiz: Well not too long ago we replaced maven with deny, a canadian player who's been fitting in very well with us. We are all friends outside the game, I can honestly say these guys are the best teammates I've ever had in and out of the game, I really couldn't ask for a better team, it became obvious when I joined these guys why they've been together for so long.


BS:
You're from T.O., where are the other Canadians from?

rob-wiz: Ted and Adam (deny) are both Canadian. Ted lives in Toronto and Adam lives in Waterloo (ed: a few miles SW of Toronto)


BS: Wombat is a legendary player. What's he like as a leader. How do you compare him with other team leaders you have played for?

rob-wiz: Well it's not really what you'd expect, we usually talk as a team during matches about what we're gonna do, he really doesn't dictate what we do or anything, its a style that works really well and I personally like it alot more than one guy calling out everything for the team.


BS:
Going into the CEVO-P championships did you feel like you guys were prepared to go all the way - or were you surprised to see yourselves in the final?

rob-wiz: Well at first I was worried cause we had to use anomaly instead of maven since we had replaced him with Adam after the roster lock, so initially I was having my doubts but once we started practicing things were going well with Anomaly and I knew we had a good shot at winning it.

BS: To get into the finals with Pandemic you played The Guardians. This was a tough match and they pushed you right to the end. I think you guys won in O/T. Tell us a little about that match, why do you think the Guardians fought you guys to a stand-still?

rob-wiz: Honestly it wasn't as close as it should have been, we lost alot of dumb rounds that should have been won easily, we just weren't on our game that night I think. We made alot of mistakes and The Guardians played really well.


BS:
To me, the key map in the match was Crash. What was your initial strategy on there - how were you guys going to play them? (You guys used a lot of speed at the beginning - but were not too successful).

rob-wiz: We approached the match as we would with any team, just trying our initial strats that we have to feel them out and eventually just adjust to whatever their weakness is, we failed alot in the beginning because they were countering our stuff very well, but we ended up winning because we adjusted based on what they were doing.


BS:
If there's one scene in the Guardians match that I will long remember - it's you climbing up on that sandbagged building opposite from the Blue Building in Crash and whacking your opposite numbers as they came at you.

Do you find it more enjoyable to be more of a defensive-minded mid-map player or an aggressive attacker?

I say that, because I also am seeing you carrying a scope from time to time. Do you carry the sniper when you guys execute a slow-Push strat on "sniper friendly maps" or is this a one-off thing?

rob-wiz: Well i'll only snipe if we feel its needed or if I think I can pick a guy cause I have him profiled, but usually no we dont run a sniper too often on most maps just cause the ak can be just as deadly at a range and its much better for the short game. As for what I like doing better, i'll always enjoy defending more and im sure thats what most players will tell you, simply because it's so much easier to defend, most maps are defense-sided  because its so easy. Attacking isn't as fun because you get naded and flashed and it can be really difficult sometimes.


BS:
What was your strategy going into O/T and were you guys able to execute that strat the way you wanted (in the end I think you guys clobbered them with set nades and a slow push).

rob-wiz: Well whenever we go into OT we're always confident, I dont think we've ever lost in overtime against any team, we just ended up doing the strats we did in the late rounds of regular play because it was working so well (I honestly dont remember what the strat was that match was a blur to me)


BS:  After winning against The Guardians you went up against Team Pandemic on their map of choice, mp_strike, in the finals. Were you intimidated by the map choice - after all it's been said that it's TP's best map - and possibly EG's worst?

rob-wiz: For sure, strike has always been a map that we've kind of sucked at, fnatic beat us 13-3 on that map so that can just show you how bad we were on it. But since i33 we've switched up our setups and whatnot and it's been working really well I think. To be honest I didn't expect to win that map.


BS: I thought that TP came up flat at first and you guys were able to exploit their nerves. They seemed to miss a lot of shots and they even got TK's - did you notice that nervousness on their part in the one-on-one encounters?

rob-wiz: It's hard to tell when you cant see the other team in first person, so i don't know but I'm sure they were getting stressed out once we took a bunch of rounds early on strike, and I can tell you from experience that stress will cause you to miss some of the easiest kills.


BS: One of the things that TP players admitted to is that they did not change up their strats on Strike - did you guys anticipate this? How did you guys end up cleaning their clock on that map? It seemed you were always one step ahead of them.

rob-wiz: We were just communicating very well and that made everything so much easier, also we had a really positive attitude going into the match. As for the strats I really don't know, we just took  it round by round, made our shots and played smart.


BS: After you guys took the map 13-7, did you guys realize that you could win the match? Did you become a bit overconfident?

rob-wiz: After winning strike it was definitely a big confidence booster, we knew we could win it once we won on our all time worst map. I don't think we became overconfident, we kept doing our thing, it was a close match but we lost almost all the close rounds, I think I lost 3 1v1's which didn't help.



BS: On Backlot, (EG map choice), you guys were rocked a bit early on as Nabore's crew started to rattle off a few games. What turned it around for you?

rob-wiz: From what I can remember we were getting naded and picked early, we just made sure we didn't go down early so we didn't give them that early advantage and then the rounds started going in our favor.



BS: Once the game was over and you guys had won...was the accomplishment as exciting and thrilling as all your past victories? Or was it more special with this team?

rob-wiz: Definitely an extremely satisfying win, it's always better when you're the underdog, its the first time we've placed first in something in CoD4 and I hope there will be many celebrations to come :D


BS: What's coming up for EG? Are you guys traveling to any of the Euro LAN's this summer?

rob-wiz: We're going to Nerv 2 in June, and plan on attending tournaments in Belgium, Denmark, England and Spain


Everyone here at BASHandSlash.com wishes Rob and EG success in all their upcoming tournaments...good luck guys!

 
BASH 58: CoD4 Cyberevolves
Written by jockyitch   
Saturday, 03 May 2008

The topic for this week's webcast, as the title implies, deals with Cyber Evolution (CEVO) and competitive gaming in CoD4.

We called the webcast "CoD4 Cyberevolves" to describe the changes that IW's Modern Warfare game has gone through: first starting out as an awesome SP game, then to a handsdown MP winner to now...a solid platform for competitive gamers to play on.

With us to discuss CoD4 and competitive gaming is someone that I feel is not only a great student of the game, he is one of the best at explaining its nuances. Former competitive player, CoD-advocate and writer and now match-caster for eRev TV, Ted "Sang" Ottey is on the program.

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It is not a coincidence that Ted is with us on the day after the finale' of the CEVO-P (Professional) Season One Championship in CoD4: a championship game that pitted The Evil Geniuses (formerly The Doctors) and the perennial CoD powerhouse, Team Pandemic .

While the results of the game were featured in this BASHandSlash.com article:  CEVO-P CoD4 Championship S1, we wanted to have Sang come on the program and tell us his thoughts of this momentous game and he gives us the ebbs and flows of the game and offers us a wealth of background data.

In general, Ted is a wealth of information on CoD competitive gaming. He's been there from the start and helped popularize the idea that CoD should be showcased in popular gaming LANS right along side other FPS competitions.

One of the reasons that nowadays players have the ability to reap monetary benefits from winning CoD4 LANS and online-tournaments is due to the work of folks like Sang who have been instrumental in getting the word out to the corporations who sponsor the events.

Ted is one of the best tacticians and monday-morning quarterbacks that is currently writing online. Check out some of the great articles he has written for CEVO recently:

Five Secrets to Success on Pipeline

Call of Duty 4: Competitive Maps

Call of Duty 4: The Beginning

And this one on the CEVO-P championship for his new patron, Team Pandemic:

CEVO-P S1: Playoff Preview 

 

Listen to the webcast here: 

 


SHOW NOTES: 

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to BASH I'm Jock Yitch. With us this week is a gentleman that has had   a long involvement in competitive fps gaming. Currently, he's wearing more hats than Beyonce....

He's the Head of the CoD4 Amateur Division for CyberEvolution or CEVO, and he's also with the gaming outfit Team Pandemic, providing them team coverage and community articles at teampandemic.net

And finally as I discovered last night while watching the CEVO-P COD4 championship, he does match casting on eRev TV.

Please welcome Ted Ottey aka Sang to the program.


1. Tell us a little bit about yourself and how you got into the media side of competitive fps gaming...youre a writer, shoutcaster...i mean...what don't you do!

What was your involvement with the now defunct WSVG. What happened to them?

2. You're now the  Head of the Amateur Division for CEVO.

a) Explain to folks what CEVO is all about and what is the history of the organization.
b) What do you do there as the Amateur Division head?
c) What are the different levels in CEVO (CEVO-P, Amateur...etc.)?

If someone out there is in a really good team and wants to get into competitive gaming, how do they sign up to play with CEVO?

How do you get into CEVO-P? Is it by invitation?

3. Is the competitive scene in CoD4 taking off?

One of the big issues in CoD2 was the lack of really good teams. Has CoD4 caught on with the gaming community and are good teams coming into the competitive side of the game?

4. Getting back to CEVO-P....you had the big championship game for Season one last night so we're timing this interview really well.

a) How many teams are in the professional bracket? How many matches do they play?
b) Which teams have floated to the top give us a quick run down of the top three teams so that we can
become familiar with them.

5. Team Pandemic met the Evil Geniuses last night in the CEVO-P finals.

But the coolest thing was listening to you talking strats as the eRev pbp and color guy. How did you get into that gig?

6. The playdowns to the championship have been fun. The Evil Geniuses and the Guardians match stood out for me in particular - with the match going into OT. With Wombat and rob-wiz's team the Evil Geniuses winning and putting themselves in the finals.

However, the final itself was somewhat disappointing by that standard.

By now, everyone knows that EG won against Pandemic...what did you think of the game and why did they win?

7. What's the future of CoD4 competitive gaming?

Last year, we were starting to see the CoD2 teams start touring in the WSVG circus.  Then WSVG went belly up it all stopped....will we see something similar start up for CoD4?
 

 

Thanks to Ted for coming on the program. And of course thanks to our audio engineer, Skeebo.

 

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BASH 57: Chicks'n CoD
Written by jockyitch   
Monday, 21 April 2008

Although we have tried our darndest, it has taken a whopping 57 episodes to finally get a women's perspective on the BASH webcast.

But 57 is the charm. And that perspective is finally given to us by extremegamerz own...

{eXg}Black Widow.

Black Widow picked up FPS gaming a few years ago...and she's never looked back. She is an accomplished, and highly-competitive CoD2 player. She squeezes in as much practice time with her sniper-rifle as possible while still finding ample room to be a loving wife and mother and work as an artist (as the sketch below attests).

 

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On today's show, Black Widow and I discuss the state of FPS gaming from a woman's perspective. What is it like to mix it up with the guys online? Are men really better than women in CoD? Why are there no female avatars in FPS's? Why are all men pigs? (...sorry, that's my wife's question....how'd she get on here?).

The interview gives a fascinating perspective that is seldom heard by the average male gamer:

 


SHOW NOTES:

Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to BASH, my name is Jock Yitch...

You may or may not have noticed that in all the webcasts we do, even in the bilingual ones like last week, we always put the word "Ladies" first.

We do that on purpose because we think it is vital to attract Lady Gamers to gaming/eSports. They not only swell our numbers, but their presence reduces the stigma FPS gaming has in society.

And frankly, having women in the sport is great, having them on our servers tends to reduce all the shenanigans that go on when only men get together...just ask a yachtsman in Athens Greece during Sail Week.

BASHandSlash.com has, since its inception, tried to get the girls to put their word in edgewise...we have featured many lady gamers on our blog...our first elected CoD Hall of Famer was a woman and heck we even had a lady-gamer as a columnist for a while...

However, our efforts have fallen short apparently. A little while ago a loyal listener alerted us of this post on the extremegamerz.net forum:


And I quote:

"Ya know, I have sit here and thought about playing in COD2 and 4 and how much I love it, but you never see anything about the WOMEN of COD. You know that some of us can really kick some ass and play just like the men.

Why is there not something on how we play?

Is it because the game is considered a "mans" game. I beg to differ. I know that I personally can at least make it to the top 5 scores on each map.

Am I being a whiny little girl?
Maybe, but I think that females can play just as well and sometimes better than the men.

Wouldn't it be awesome for Jock Yitch to do something on BASH about the women?

I think it would be a good read.... Heck, I would even do a dang interview.

 

Well we have the author of that statement with us today to do that dang interview. She's a member of the eXtremegamerz clan, and she knows how to shoot, let's give a big BASH welcome to {eXg}BlackWidow.

 

1. Name? Where are you from?

2. Gaming Bio

3. There are a lot of people - both men and women - who think that "FPS Gaming is not for ladies", do you think that these people are a minority in society or is this sentiment an accurate representation of the thought in society today?

If you think this is the way typical society thinks: how do you remove this stigma against women playing violent video games? How do you deal with criticisms that FPS is the last thing that we need right now...that is, turning our nurturers into online killers?

4. Why do YOU go online and specifically why do YOU play FPS? What do you get out of it? Why not WOW or the Sims?

5. What is the reaction of your non-gaming friends when you tell them that you game?

6. Describe what it has been like for you to play online?

7. How many times does your sex come up during the course of play?

8. In your opinion, in this day and age, have the guys accepted women gamers? Or do they still have the attitude that "Men are better than women at gaming".

9. In my opinion women are still not fully respected in the sport because they are not seen to be as serious as male gamers. The fact you are on this program may dissuade people from this argument, but would you agree with it? Do you agree about the respect issue?


10. Do you think that female gamers are hypocrites? After all I always hear about how women complain about the misogynyst male gamers who are rude and crude towards women online...but then I see how they use their femininity as an unfair weapon as well...

As as an example, I once asked guy-readers of BASHandSlash.com whether they would marry lady gamers...90% said absolutely...some said they already had. When i asked women, whether they'd marry a guy-gamer...all said no, cuz they'd have no time for them.

11. Mathilde Abgrall, player coach on the Frag Dolls an all women CS gaming team once described what she wanted in an FPS game:

“Girls want a good story, a good scenario,” she said. “They want to be able to identify themselves to the character they are playing. Somebody much more like them. Someone with more personality, more character and maybe a little more fat and less, uh, physical.”

Do you agree?

a) Speaking of female characters...CoD2 had some SP female soldiers (Russian soldiers). I would have bet the farm that CoD4 would have had as well. But they did not appear in CoD4. Why do you think that is?

What would you say to Treyarch (developers of CoD5) if they were listening on this topic?

b) What would YOU you want in a game? Run down a list of things you would like to see in a game (aside from female avatars):

 

You can comment on this program at our BASH Boards

Additional notes:

A March 2008 report released by the Entertainment Software Association found that 38% of gamers are female. The ESA report stated that the majority of female gamers play the Nintendo DS, as well as games such as The Sims. Female gamers make up the majority of the market for casual games, featured on the DS, as well as the Nintendo Wii.

The ESA stated that girls spend 7.4 hours each and every week playing video games. Video games have always thought to have been a male-dominated activity, but things are definitely changing.

 

 
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