Problem with hardcore is i always get lost. Maybe i've been playing noobtown to much and need to learn the maps lol.

For those of you tired of shooting a whole clip at someone and they don't die, learn to aim. You need to pull your sights up and aim for their head or chest. 2-3 shots in head or chest will kill anyone with any weapon in sc. So if you waste a clip and didn't kill them, that's because you missed most of your shots. There is nothing wrong with the hit registry, you just don't get much damage for shooting them in the foot.

On hc, it doesn't matter where your bullets register, 2-3 shots and they are dead. So it's not really about one being better than the other, but you have to play them differently. You just can't go around firing from the hip in sc and expect people to drop like they do in hc.

I agree with this post. But I would add that I find it amusing that Buster would claim that the original game was really HC and that stock was introduced in CoD4. I see this as an attempt to turn reality on its face and to do this, he tries to qualify his opinion by establishing his credibility and supposed learned knowledge on the issue by telling us about his age, and experience. Those personal attributes are far from exceptional in these and other forums. I see this process as an attempt to convince the majority of the CoD community (who do play stock - like it or not) that HC is as skill based as stock. I do not think it is, but I do think it has its own merits and must be played differently than stock. Others still seem to try to bring in realiasm into a game that was never really affilitated with that concept.

i have played the faster paced gametypes and they were still slow :/ maybe i just play with a lot of noobs -.-

I actually find you amusing with your attempt to discredit me. Many around the community can attest for my age and experience and yes giving background I do think that add's credence to anything anyone is discussing "Real Word" or "Gamer World". Also, you obviously did not read my entire post. In the later part I do explain both concepts have their place and both are good for gaming. I actually play a lot of Core (formerly known as Softcore because I like the new term) S&D. No I am not trying to sway anyone person to choose one or the other. No place did I state this. I only stated why I like HC. Nothing wrong with being honest. Just tried to shed some light on the whole discussion from a different perspective using my past/present knowledge along with experience other then the insult laden threads from folks who couldn't back up a car let alone back up there counter point with any kind of quality information.

Did I explain it perfectly probably not. As for skill...Being a former rifles only player I use nothing but iron sights and shoot for the head no matter the weapon in my hand.

The other day I took the Black Ops M14 with silencer and shot another player in the head (yes tink tink tink) 3 times until he died on a Core server. Not real proper if you ask me. You take the evidence the way you want to but before you try to discredit me maybe get to know me but that is not as easy as sitting behind a screen plunking away on your keyboard now is it.

Anyway, it is a controversial topic so big thanks to all including you blckamber for the impute. I think it has gone much better then the other name calling thread which had to be locked. Keep it up guys good chat. Cya on the battlefield and Merry Fragging Christmas.

I'm sorry but that just isn't true. 2-3 shots in the head would certainly kill someone in normal mode, but doing the same anywhere else (even the chest) doesn't guarantee a kill. And shooting someone at point blank (even with a single shot) with an assault rifle only to have them ignore the hit, run at you and knife you is just plain stupid. That is why I dislike normal mode.

You are right that if I was better at aiming I would get more kills in normal mode, but many encounters are ones where the opponents suddenly encounter each other at close range, so snap-firing (panic firing) occurs. In HC mode, managing to get a couple of hits on the opponent should drop them, irrespective of the rate of fire of the weapon, but in normal mode it won't.
Again, that is the sort of situation that happens a lot of the time and the slower firing but more lethal weapons will always fail unless a single shot is likely to kill, because once you start getting hit you can't respond.
Of course, if you are stationary, you can take more time aiming at enemies when they appear. But then you will probably be accused of camping.

(As an aside, I was on a server last night where I had a class that wasn't using Ghost (I had the Hardline perk) and a jammer to prevent spy planes from seeing me. Because of the jammer I would move to a place, set it down then wait for a few minutes before moving out. I was accused of camping (by someone with the Ghost perk and the AK74U) who spent the entire round running and gunning).

I have seen too many games where the reduced weapon damage results in unrealistic firefights and a bigger use (abuse?) of the single-shot kill weapons - especially rifle grenades and launchers. That is why I prefer HC.
It has nothing to do with skill or lack thereof.
In the same way that I prefer to avoid FFA servers because I prefer teamwork.

Having said that, I wouldn't claim HC is perfect. Each mode has its flaws and it comes down to personal preference.

I don't play HC at all because I am totally dependent on the minimap to show me where the enemy is. I'm simply lost without it there all the time. Also, I play runNgun style, with Steady Aim and fire a lot from the hip. You can't do that in HC, as you will get cut down as soon as you step out into the open. HC just isn't my style of playing, but I appreciate it as an option for those who like that style of play. No need for anyone to be giving grief to anyone else because of their prefered style of play. It's all gravy.

As to all that has been said about it requiring too many bullets to take down an opponent in softcore mode, I would have to say I totally disagree. With the right weapon, and aiming properly, you can take down the enemy in softcore effectively enough. On almost any map, I favour the AK74u with extended mag to cut down on reloads, and Steady Aim Pro, shooting a lot from the hip, and that gun just cuts them down really quick. Perhaps too quick, which is why it has a reputation for being over powered because Steady Aim just makes it insanely over accurate.

At the end of the day the difference between core and HC is HC has no hud and it take less damage to kill some ppl like it more some don't it dusnt matter about what's better its up 2 who is playing

I just wish I could understand the kill system in Black Ops.

By this I mean, in HC mode sometimes you get those 2-hit kills with an SMG (1 in the head)...and sometimes you aim directly at the head, it shows the hit-registration click and you hit them three times in the head and they just keep running. I've done this with a scorpion, a Stoner, the AUG, etc. It happens to me a lot. other times you completely miss and shoot over the shoulder and they die. I see this on my clan's server that i have a 90-100 ping on...something I'm used to playing with and have never seen lag with before.

I don't know if it's lag or hit-reg or what but it just feels like lag many times. I'm posting this here to show that with CODBO it seems like even in HC you have to hit the head AND hope there's no lag or hit-reg issues haha.

Also, I think HC normally allows better team play because you have to be communicating to each other where you see enemies and where you are with there being no minimap. As soon as you lose that communication, the teammate behind you goes down and you didn't know so you get stabbed in the back and lose the objective.

I'm not saying you can't play as a team in "softcore" but the minimap definitely changes the gameplay a lot, especially when you drop so easily.

I hate the hit counter it just is'nt accurate and it gets in the way of your aim .