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Dante
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Joined: Sun Sep 26, 2010 9:41 am Posts: 119
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Kucd wrote: jswizzy wrote: You realize the direction/mouse wheel menu is in their because of free look right? No other reason. True, but I was talking about navigating the menus and, most importantly, going into the theater mode and finding out that the only valid input hardware is the keyboard, hence my remark about the blind and calling BS on dedicated PC team. Dedicated guy to press the port key, yeah, but that's about it. DICE used the same excuse too and I have too much dealing with corporations to know PR BS when I see it and I'm sick and tired of seeing the big developers, always mainstream, pulling our strings and then taking away the rug from under our feet time and time again. Unless the game is actually working differently for others, with this release it's hard to say what works well and what doesn't. From people not having sound at all to the monumental lag both SP and MP, I'm sorry to say that even DICE releases went smoother than this. Thankfully got this for $20 but damn, I was actually expecting this game to be playable at release, which isn't for many. And since the source of the problem is an unknown variable right now it may take a while to get a definitive fix. But I want this game to be good, same as everyone else. Not too worried, if it's indeed Steam or some kind of networking problem outside the game itself, we'll have AlterOps. Keyboard navigation ported from console? You're funny. Since when did the consoles use a keyboard? And before you try and tell me that a keyboard cursor key or NumPad key is the same as a controller key, it isn't. The code in DirectInput is different for a keyboard, a mouse, or a controller. There are 32 guys at Treyarch in the dedicated PC team. I suppose they are all figments of Treyarch's imagination because Kucd has had such extensive experience of PR BS that he isn't fooled by the hallucination. Seriously, just GTFO any black ops threads dude, if all you are going to do is sit there and libel the developers at Treyarch because of your "suspicions" bourne out of your ignorance about how middleware cross platform game development works.
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coppersnake
Master Corporal
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 2:52 am Posts: 85 Location: Sydney,Australia
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
By the looks of it im glad i havent got this game yet. i think ill wait this out an just stick to CS1.6 until they patch it or the next COD comes out =P or HOS.
anyways off to my cousins to see if he can convert me to xbox with his version of black ops. unlikely though must say zombies was more fun on xbox in waw then on PC mainly because people played it all the time. i know im such a traitor.
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:48 am |
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Jo3_23
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Joined: Sat May 01, 2010 10:31 am Posts: 1695 Location: UK, Merseyside, Southport
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i saw someone saying even people with I7's cant run the game..... How am i ruining it then with a amd 9850X4 2.50ghz! the pc players are shooting them self if they do not give this game a chance! look at Tryarchs History as a developer how they looked after the PC player The fact that my lag seems to have gone after the updates i have just got They sent out a update to me ON day one! The game is very fun and very enjoyable its far better then BFBC2 or MOH or MW! just give them sometime no wonder developers sun the PC platform if people just rage quit after the 1st hour of game play. 
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:52 am |
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catar
Warrant Officer
Joined: Tue Oct 13, 2009 6:01 am Posts: 171
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Problems for me is server browser adn lag spikes.I can only join about half the servers I try to join.I don't have probs with low FPS GTX460 SLI steady 90FPS all maxed out but lag spikes are preventing me enjoing my tomahawk kills  Maps are good but I would like to see more then 18 ppl limit.
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:20 am |
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Kucd
Lt. Colonel
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:42 am Posts: 794
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Jo3_23 wrote: i saw someone saying even people with I7's cant run the game..... How am i ruining it then with a amd 9850X4 2.50ghz! the pc players are shooting them self if they do not give this game a chance! look at Tryarchs History as a developer how they looked after the PC player The fact that my lag seems to have gone after the updates i have just got They sent out a update to me ON day one! The game is very fun and very enjoyable its far better then BFBC2 or MOH or MW! just give them sometime no wonder developers sun the PC platform if people just rage quit after the 1st hour of game play.  That's my hope, that Treyarch does deliver the patches as it did for WaW. Once the major bugs are out of the way I can easily see this game being the best CoD since CoD4 but until the major bugs persist, namely the poor performance and lag spikes, it'll be hard for most people to play the game at all. But I do agree with people that say this shouldn't have happened. It's still a product all of us spent money on and we expect the game to be playable at least out of the box, like on the consoles. Right now the game is a mess with only a handful being able to play properly. If PC gamers have this kind of reactions then I say it's well justified as PC gamers are growing weary of botched release after botched release, and that is quite understandable. Let's just hope Treyarch deliver a good patch, no matter how long they'll take to produce it.
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:10 am |
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MrMagpie
Corporal
Joined: Sun Sep 19, 2010 3:25 am Posts: 17
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Well ill keep of whats wrong with the game as its been covered and i do think most if not all is fixable .
So far I've played around 2 1/2 hours and yes had some spikes and lag but so far im happy . I should say I'm only looking at it from a DM point of view ill play a bit on the team games but i really just want a good DM experience as I've not had one for quite some time .
I Like most of the maps so far there's been no real camp fest just some bad spawn points . The bigger maps been the better ones for me i would like more jungle maps .
Games have been fast paced and i can tell its been a while since I've played any real MP .(wont class MoH as MP)
I'm at the point now were i can see me playing this for a while if bugs are fixed and i can see me renting a DM server in a week or two (held of after BFBC2 server) If i can turn of killstreaks i think id happily settle for that but would love to remove a few of the booms .
The only other thing that will probably get tiresome to me is the knife but at the moment it could just be because of the lag shootings not as good as it should be , ill keep telling my self that but really i aim like blank .
All in all I'm happy witch is surprising .
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:51 am |
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spawnstar
Officer Cadet
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:45 am Posts: 329 Location: UK
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ive just cancelled our clan server, you can only reserve 5 slots (theres 10 of us) you cant connect directly to the server , Gameservers took our server offline and then sent a blank!t email that tried to shift the blame to misconfig on my part ! lol, the rcon tool is shocking, you can only stream messages to the server when the tool is running !!!! you cant alt tab out the game to use it, the passworded reserved slots dont work !! etc etc etc, Its a mess, a total slap in the face to pc gamers who paid for this service and where promised so much more. , this on top of the performance issues , lag spike in both single and mulitiplayer, steam constantly breaking, theatre mode not working , awful unusable server browser, custom create a class not remembering settings, at least console gamers can trade in games and sell them, We are made to tie into steam (which breaks everytime theres a big release !).
Ive been a dedicated (not in the treyarch definition of dedicated !!) Cod gamer since cod1 and this is the biggest letdown yet.
If they can patch it and get all the features working quickly (and i mean by week 1) then it may just save it but i for one am not holding my breath,
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:58 am |
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Rek_91
Corporal
Joined: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:27 pm Posts: 15 Location: OTT, ON
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
I am not impressed at all. The game won't run on my PC for more than 5 min's with-ought crashing. With random errors. Most of the time it's this 1, http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6578/53459268.jpg , sometimes Steam just crashes, and I get a fatal error. Intel core 2 duo 2.66GHz GTS250 1G 2G RAM XP Sp3 I run MW2, BFBC2, and MOH on high with 60 fps. No reason I can't run this game. This is why a PC game always needs a beta. Everyones PC is not the same. Unlike the 360 where everything is the same for everyone. Oh and btw... I have tried absolutely every possible way to fix this... been at it since 10am EST Nov 9 it is now 7 am.. and I am going to try the one and final thing I didn't do... Since it required time, to DL the game again via.. steam. Re-install.
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:01 am |
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spawnstar
Officer Cadet
Joined: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:45 am Posts: 329 Location: UK
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Rek_91 wrote: I am not impressed at all. The game won't run on my PC for more than 5 min's with-ought crashing. With random errors. Most of the time it's this 1, http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/6578/53459268.jpg , sometimes Steam just crashes, and I get a fatal error. Intel core 2 duo 2.66GHz GTS250 1G 2G RAM XP Sp3 I run MW2, BFBC2, and MOH on high with 60 fps. No reason I can't run this game. This is why a PC game always needs a beta. Everyones PC is not the same. Unlike the 360 where everything is the same for everyone. Oh and btw... I have tried absolutely every possible way to fix this... been at it since 10am EST Nov 9 it is now 7 am.. and I am going to try the one and final thing I didn't do... Since it required time, to DL the game again via.. steam. Re-install. dont get too excited if you get it working.............
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| Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:09 am |
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Kucd
Lt. Colonel
Joined: Mon Jun 07, 2010 6:42 am Posts: 794
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 Re: First Impressions of MP
Sad as this may be, alteriwnet's dedis works far much better than BO official servers do. And alterops is coming. How brutal would it be if AlterOps got online first and offered a far better play experience than the official channel?
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