I got bored just trying to reply to him in a claim rational manner, as it didn't stop him insulting me. So, I resorted to a language which I thought he understood better - one of childish insults. As the saying goes, if you can't beat them, join them.

As to what has been proved or not, it was mostly to counter his assertion that the World at War engine was a pre-alpha COD4 engine. Demonstrating that subsequent COD4 patch fixes had found their way into the engine was enough to do that. I don't care whether the developers at IW did it willingly, or if they were dragged kicking and screaming into it, it's all the same - WaW was NOT built on a pre-alpha engine. They may have STARTED with one, but as I said, you can track the progressive stages in the engine build because Treyarch were kind enough to date their work, and all the dates are there for anyone to read in the dev raw files.

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Dante



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i enjoyed the argument as a lot of good evidence was put forward and you both argued your cases well one thing i didn't like is that Spawnstar you resorted to blatant insults which to Dante's credit he did not resort only after you had goaded him into it he started, insults should have no place on these forums the insults should never need to be thrown around as they are personal insults, we should be like historians are in a debate and do not descend into childish rants through you keyboard, and you should never take you argument over into a different thread

Spawnstar
(in my PC_dev thred please do not turn that into a rant thred also lol )

This could thred be locked please or edited so it looks presentable? the insults don't look good and shouldn't have to be tolerated by a user of the site no matter who they are.

Can we please have an argument/ heated debate without insulting each other you both conducted you point of view very well and both points of view were put across until you both descended into childishness, now all the evidence from your arguments is layed out let people look at it all and pick what point of view they agree with and put this argument to rest here please do not take it into other threds.

you forgot to add the stupid startrek picture in your quote list , Quite easy to pick small quotes out and make it look one way or the other isnt it !!!!?? !, I was losing interest as soon as i realised that he was going down the "I'm right no matter what and the whole internet is wrong" route and as soon as he started posting the same responce to 1 tiny snipet of my post over and over and said he can poke holes in all my future posts too, i just said grow up and get over it. thats all , no need to pick sides and whatnot, im chilled with it, whatever , hes best mates with the devs and everyone who makes mods and hes always right, cool ,i'm not the only one whos commented on this either, but anyways , i dont really care that much anymore tbh,

i know i didnt put that in as it would mess up this thred even more but that was after u called him names and the ....... at the end of my quotes means and on and on and on there are to many quotes to do from you both i have no side i think ur both being childish if you don't agree that fine please don't start calling each other names the internet needs less hate

Not trying to drag it up for the sake of it but today some interesting news report regarding my "unsubstantiated claims" that IW wouldnt play ball with Treyarch !!this is a paragraph from Activisions lawsuit amendment, so not just a spat between 402 and bob, theres alot more intersting reading in the same article too , The fact that they are suing EA for $400 million !!! lol



http://www.joystiq.com/2010/12/21/activ ... flict-ser/

I posted this over at FSPAmin.com:

Ok so lets say its idtech4, that makes the engine 5 years old and its not the newest technology.
They use old technology because it has to run on the xbox and the black ops game is still graphically not great.
I mean the singleplayer was really ugly at times, for example kennedy's face which looked like a pizza or so.

If you want to see what todays pcs could achive look at a crysis engine game, and that is allready one of yesterday's games.

Thats right all your fancy gfx cards and processors arent used to their full potential.
Its no use to spend much money on a gfx card nowadays.

No one is saying it's id Tech 4, as that is the Doom 3 engine. They were arguing about it being IW Tech 4.0.

Anyway, all the fancy graphics in the world doesn't make a good game. Crysis was a really boring game, and it didn't run too well on most PC's because of the way they did models. I really wish people would stop believing that next gen graphics makes a good game. Call of Duty 4 used IW Tech 3.0, and despite the graphics not being next gen, it still out sold all other games released the same year. And it did that because the game itself was superb. Not because it had next gen graphics.

Im just saying a lot would be possible but its just not done.

Black ops doesnt look that mutch better than cod4, waw, mw2 it looks better but just not that much.
Its not impressive graphically and gameplay wise.

I disliked crysis too for gameplay reasons.