Imagine bfbc2 with smaller maps with a lot of chokepoints
weapons with zero recoil
no vehicles as far as I have seen
even less teamplay needed than in bfbc2.

It looks like a very simplified version of bfbc2 and is practically a techdemo for frostbite, nice effects way too much bloom just like bfbc2.

It makes bfbc2 look like a super awesome game and cod4 like brain food.

And because of the engine no custom maps ever, no thanks

I don't think the game sucks, I just don't see a reason to buy it since it is so similar to BFBC2 and the Vietnam expansion.

I see no reason to buy any game based on the frostbite 2 engine, and the Moh open beta sucks in so many/every way(s) , console ported junk , not good enough. and when BF3 comes out its going to be the same , even the vietnam addon is only 4 more maps , EA have let a great opertunity slip by.

As opposed to Black Ops? Which is a 100% PC game? Umm, yah.

There's lots of reasons to buy a game based on Frostbite. Just not MoH. It's Frostbite minus the fun Frostbite stuff.

I just canceled my preorder of MOH.It's OK game but nothing new nothing which makes it stand out and COD BO just a month away I probably wouldn't be playing MOH after that.COD BO is not perfect but there is a lot of new things which will make me want to play the game.Maybe I'll pick up MOH when it's going to be %50 off on steam

I don't think it sucks anymore...the first beta was unbelievably bad, but this one has definitely stepped it up dramatically. I don't think the game is worth over $45ish bucks though lol. I'm hoping the SP is great.

Also, @GutshotYooper, this game is not the Frostbite 2 engine. It's 1.0. it doesn't even have destruction 2.0 like BC2 did. destruction 2.0 is just a feature they added into the FB1.0 engine. BF3 will be on the FB2.0 engine and will have TONS of advancements in giving the developers more options and making it generally easier to code for and much more efficient...that means more maps, more likelihood of mod-tools, more FPS, and possibly a bunch more eye candy. Basically, you have no idea just how different BF3 will be. Another note is that FB2.0 is developed in DX11 first (PC), then brought to consoles, unlike FB1.0 which is developed on PS3 first, then brought to the other two. This means for BF3 we will have a much better engine to work with.

MOH, well...it is what it is, FB1.0, no destruction2.0, just a simplified BC2 basically, but it gives that CQC feel that BC2 just doesn't have and I think it's pretty fun. It definitely has it's flaws, but most of them I find hillarious enough to not care (like guns that sound entirely different looking down the sights than when you pick up your head lol).

Cool, didn't know that. That would explain it. Thanks for the info on that. And, um, as a recent Dice/BF convert, I am waiting eagerly for BF3. Why is it that we are always waiting for the next game though? Lol.

Maybe you've seen this, maybe you haven't? http://bf3nation.com/2010/08/frostbite- ... pc-gamers/

BF3 is being developed in DX11 for the new xbox....not for the PC.

new Xbox? is that a joke?

Nope. They are working on a new one. Time to be marginalized even more.