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Post Re: Quake Style Graphics Tweak?
You don't actually need any third party apps running to achieve that effect, so for that matter VAC can't do a bleepin' thing about it since it's just tweaked graphics driver settings. And RivaTuner won't work with newer drivers anyway.
Al you need to do is to edit your lodbias setting in the games driver profile to a variable like 10 or 15. Don't know how it's handled with ATI, but for Nvidia drivers you'll need a tool(google it!) to export and import the SLI profiles(with drivers below 197.45 you can edit the nvapps.xml rightaway in notepad) and replace the line "Setting ID_0x00738e8f = 0x00000000" with "Setting ID_0x00738e8f = 0x00000050 UserSpecified=true".
Just posting this here so everybody can try it out for themselfs because on maps like Jungle or Array it gives one helluva advantage(and most likely unfair in comp), just look a these screens:

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This also works with pretty much any other game!

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Notice how there is almost no foliage visible in those shots? It's still there but it's just so low res and washed out that you can look right through it!


Wed Feb 23, 2011 2:04 pm
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Post Re: Quake Style Graphics Tweak?
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Well, just to say that with such promod cfg change the risk of being disgusting !!!!!


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Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:24 am
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it would bei nteresting to know though how much this affects the performance of the game.


Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:57 am
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Speed, the washed out to the max textures are not done through a normal fps .cfg! I remember some older games where this was possible but you can't do this with a cfg - it's all driver tweaking. I can imagine that in a comp environment this shouldn't actually be a problem, afaik most leagues use programs that take screenshots of your game and people that use this will be spotted quite fast. Imho the more important question is on what basis one would have to judge a whole team that uses such a driver tweak? Afaik most restrictions are on certain .cfg commands and not on the individual driver settings of the participants.
Pub play on the other hand is a different cup of tea, I mean let's look at it this way: most of us prefer PC gaming for exactly those tweaks and adjustments to your gameplay experience! I do have the computing power to run this game at max settings with AAx4 on my 22inch monitors native resolution, and I do so in the singleplayer campaign, but what good does it multiplayer when a guy with a 5 year old machine can easily outplay me because he has turned off all his eyecandy and can spot me from a mile away on any map?
As I said before, this particular tweak was used in many games before and even worked straight off the cfg's(Quake2, Quake3 or UnrealTournament for example).

Ezre, I've read your PM but somehow I'm unable to reply with one(probably blocked user priviliges), so I'm going to answer your question here.
Yes you can do this on newer cards and drivers without RivaTuner. You'll need a pretty simple app which is called GeForce SLI Profile Tool, here's a link:
http://www.geeks3d.com/20100528/manage-your-sli-profiles-with-nvidia-geforce-sli-profile-tool/
Once you've downloaded it use it to export your Nvidia 3D profile settings to a .txt file(just make sure to make a copy of it!), once you've done that open up the .txt and search for the BlackOps profile, replace the line "Setting ID_0x00738e8f = 0x00000000" with "Setting ID_0x00738e8f = 0x00000050 UserSpecified=true", save the .txt and import back the profiles with the above mentioned app.
Here's a pic how it should look:
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Cheers guys!


Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:24 am
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Post Re: Quake Style Graphics Tweak?
Freakinout UK wrote:
cheating? come on ,what about people having better eyesight , will God get a vac ban?


LOL

playing without any detail on the map and having a better eyesight is the same thing?

sorry but this is stupidity

so, why not play with a red and blue skin on enemies and friends? for u it wouldnt be considered cheat right?


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"Jungle or Array it gives one helluva advantage"


Why the hell is stuff being allowed in the forums? If you are doing this kind crap with your configs you're CHEATING. Might as well just start posting links to hacks while you're at it.

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DJNOOB wrote:
Why the hell is stuff being allowed in the forums? If you are doing this kind crap with your configs you're CHEATING. Might as well just start posting links to hacks while you're at it.

I believe everybody should know about this stuff, fair and square to level out the playing field for everybody and not just keep it to certain groups of players. Actually what surprises me is that nobody mentioned this earlier because this tweak was around long before CoD.
Also, comparing the adjustement of a driver setting like "LODbias" to hacking is a brutal exaggeration. Some people tweak their games to get most out of the graphics and eye candy while others do so to get a better feeling and responsiveness. Besides the obvious visibility improvement the simplified environment allows me to better judge the lvl geometry and hence improve my avatar movement.
If you don't like people tweaking around with their games on pc I'd suggest switching to a unified console platform : )


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DJNOOB wrote:
"Jungle or Array it gives one helluva advantage"


Why the hell is stuff being allowed in the forums? If you are doing this kind crap with your configs you're CHEATING. Might as well just start posting links to hacks while you're at it.

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Post Re: Quake Style Graphics Tweak?
DJNOOB wrote:
"Jungle or Array it gives one helluva advantage"


Why the hell is stuff being allowed in the forums? If you are doing this kind crap with your configs you're CHEATING. Might as well just start posting links to hacks while you're at it.



first this isnt a config setting if you read closely. its a driver tweak which affects not just blops but any game

*open mouth insert foot*


life advice for you and others like yourself.

1). Dont like it? Get out

2) Dont post specific moral opinions because we dont care to hear/see what you think

3)These boards are not for discussing the moral issues that come along with tweaking

4) We each have our own standards, ethics, moral views. we are dynamic so cheating is in the eye of the beholder, but the beholder doesnt need to dispose his feelings on the rest of us.

5) These are public forums. He can post as he wishes. Dont like that? Complain and see how far that gets you.

6) You do not make friends or earn respect by calling out what someone has freely posted.

7) I despise ppl like you.

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Onward to a constructive forum post....


this only works with older gfx cards, the new cards like my 580 require higher level of drivers [specifically the newer ones] so the minimum driver [197.45] will not work with 5xx cards, and im sure 4xx cards.

this will never be banned by vac unless vac starts checking for driver integrity which probably would lead to lag which would be similar to PB imo.


Leagues especially with tight rules will probably not allow this; especially those who require demos. Its a use at your own risk so if ya get banned its not by our will and we here are not here to tell ppl "hahah shouldn't have use it" - its not our game or our say.

edit reasons:engrish is not my strong suit


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ezre wrote:
life advice for you and others like yourself.

1). Dont like it? Get out

2) Dont post specific moral opinions because we dont care to hear/see what you think

3)These boards are not for discussing the moral issues that come along with tweaking

4) We each have our own standards, ethics, moral views. we are dynamic so cheating is in the eye of the beholder, but the beholder doesnt need to dispose his feelings on the rest of us.

5) These are public forums. He can post as he wishes. Dont like that? Complain and see how far that gets you.

6) You do not make friends or earn respect by calling out what someone has freely posted.

7) I despise ppl like you.

First of all, you're not fit to hand out colour co-ordination advice to a clown, let alone life advice to the people on this forum.

1) "Dont like it? Get out " Get out? Where? I hear a trip to the zoo is perfect this time of year.
2) Judging by the responses since DJNoob's post, the majority of people here DO wish to hear/see what he, and many other people, thinks about this issue.
3) What the hell are you talking about? Of course they are, in fact it has been the subject of debate on a number of Bash network broadcasts. Given that you don't in any way represent the site/network, you're not really in a position to say what people can and cannot discuss here are you?
4) He may not "need" to "dispose his feelings on the rest of us", but he's free to do so if he wishes. This back seat moderation lark of yours is starting to become a bore.
5) You're right, he can post as he wishes as long as the posts remain within the forum rules, as can DJNOOB. Drop the double standards and stop being hypocritical.
6) I really don't think DJNOOB, nor most of the other people on this forum WANT to become friends with anyone that considers the above fair play.
7) I'm sure the feeling is mutual.

I'm not looking to get into a flame war here, but my lord this thread, and that post in particular was full of FAR too much fail to be allowed to continue to live. The only humane thing to do is to put it out of its misery.

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