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I was talking more about the blank hotboxes :P that was what put me off! 5 times i knifed someone in the back in a match..... never again :P

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Sounds like you needed to tweak your game, or play on lower ping servers.


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tried all the tweaks and low ping servers, that game was the worst game for hits not actually hitting. Blood would even come off them ffs :P

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Post Re: Another KM interview
If you email Mikael Kalms you will see an automated out of office message:
"I'm out travelling. Back on Aug 1st."

While he still responds It would probably be hard to get him on a cast.

Neil wrote:
I agree and disagree with you. Features such as Battle Recorder etc do help with competitive play but are not entirely essential in order to play a match.


A key point for any competitive league or ladder, is that players need to trust that other players are playing nicely according to the rules, and if not are dealt with according to the rules. If players start suspecting each other, without admins being able to approve or disprove such accusations, leagues and ladders will fall apart, even if the anti cheat would be 100% perfect.

If player A claims player B is cheating, without any way to see how that player actually played, makes it impossible to stop alleged accusations. This will make a community destroy itself.

So while for actual matches demo recording isn't necessary, its important for a ladder or league to function. When playing matches over the internet you can't see what the opponents actually do, which makes it easier for people to try and do things against the rule, and for others to expect that people do things against the rules.

Dice has been asking quite some people about opinions about competitive relative stuff including people from communities outside the BF universe. Which is at least a positive signal to me, that they are actively trying to find information to make competitive play better.

I really hope that BF3 (and HOS) will show that putting good support behind a PC title means that you obtain good returns on your franchise. And I really think that any good and real PC title should be supported.

I'll probably buy BF3, yet likely won't play it that much but if DICE follows up on their word to give the support we need as PC gamers, then I'll support them back. But after BC2 I'm still in a sort of first I'll wait then I'll see approach.

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Zetsumei wrote:
If you email Mikael Kalms you will see an automated out of office message:
"I'm out travelling. Back on Aug 1st."

While he still responds It would probably be hard to get him on a cast.

Neil wrote:
I agree and disagree with you. Features such as Battle Recorder etc do help with competitive play but are not entirely essential in order to play a match.


A key point for any competitive league or ladder, is that players need to trust that other players are playing nicely according to the rules, and if not are dealt with according to the rules. If players start suspecting each other, without admins being able to approve or disprove such accusations, leagues and ladders will fall apart, even if the anti cheat would be 100% perfect.

If player A claims player B is cheating, without any way to see how that player actually played, makes it impossible to stop alleged accusations. This will make a community destroy itself.

So while for actual matches demo recording isn't necessary, its important for a ladder or league to function. When playing matches over the internet you can't see what the opponents actually do, which makes it easier for people to try and do things against the rule, and for others to expect that people do things against the rules.

Dice has been asking quite some people about opinions about competitive relative stuff including people from communities outside the BF universe. Which is at least a positive signal to me, that they are actively trying to find information to make competitive play better.

I really hope that BF3 (and HOS) will show that putting good support behind a PC title means that you obtain good returns on your franchise. And I really think that any good and real PC title should be supported.

I'll probably buy BF3, yet likely won't play it that much but if DICE follows up on their word to give the support we need as PC gamers, then I'll support them back. But after BC2 I'm still in a sort of first I'll wait then I'll see approach.


I am hoping that with Battlelog it will have recording features and I think that if EA/DICE are looking to take on CoD Elite with their free service we may just see recording in BF3.


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Zetsumei wrote:
A key point for any competitive league or ladder, is that players need to trust that other players are playing nicely according to the rules, and if not are dealt with according to the rules. If players start suspecting each other, without admins being able to approve or disprove such accusations, leagues and ladders will fall apart, even if the anti cheat would be 100% perfect.

Well if that's true then every league and ladder should fall apart. Because I have yet to see anything that is 100% anti-cheat proof. There are ways around demo-recording, screen shots, pb and vac. So if a game doesn't have one of those pieces, so what. It doesn't make the game more or less hackable.

I was a anti-cheat admin for a league before(actually 2 different leagues). I can tell you this, no one that disputed a match or called a person a cheater, suddenly changed their mind because of a demo recording. That's just silly.. :lol:


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Well if that's true then every league and ladder should fall apart. Because I have yet to see anything that is 100% anti-cheat proof. There are ways around demo-recording, screen shots, pb and vac. So if a game doesn't have one of those pieces, so what. It doesn't make the game more or less hackable.

I was a anti-cheat admin for a league before(actually 2 different leagues). I can tell you this, no one that disputed a match or called a person a cheater, suddenly changed their mind because of a demo recording. That's just silly.. :lol:



Really? I used to play a lot of CS and DOD, and it was common practice to request someone demo's after a match if they where the least bit fishy. Seen a lot of hackers fall from grace from submitting demos (or failure to do so).

Demo recording is the best tool leagues have against hacking.

Not to mention watching demo's have become a fun pastime for a lot of league players.


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Really? I used to play a lot of CS and DOD, and it was common practice to request someone demo's after a match if they where the least bit fishy. Seen a lot of hackers fall from grace from submitting demos (or failure to do so).

Demo recording is the best tool leagues have against hacking.

Not to mention watching demo's have become a fun pastime for a lot of league players.

You might have me on those two games, but with cod and bf, you can get around demo's.


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TRTL wrote:
born2expire wrote:
Really? I used to play a lot of CS and DOD, and it was common practice to request someone demo's after a match if they where the least bit fishy. Seen a lot of hackers fall from grace from submitting demos (or failure to do so).

Demo recording is the best tool leagues have against hacking.

Not to mention watching demo's have become a fun pastime for a lot of league players.

You might have me on those two games, but with cod and bf, you can get around demo's.


I think it depends on the league more then the game, I've only ever played in CAL and CEVO.


Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:41 pm
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born2expire wrote:
TRTL wrote:
born2expire wrote:
Really? I used to play a lot of CS and DOD, and it was common practice to request someone demo's after a match if they where the least bit fishy. Seen a lot of hackers fall from grace from submitting demos (or failure to do so).

Demo recording is the best tool leagues have against hacking.

Not to mention watching demo's have become a fun pastime for a lot of league players.

You might have me on those two games, but with cod and bf, you can get around demo's.


I think it depends on the league more then the game, I've only ever played in CAL and CEVO.


What I was meaning is that demo's do not catch a lot of hacks..


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