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coppersnake wrote:
xXToYeDXx not from america so yeah...
good points though.

Another reason why valve may be able to do in game transactions is because tf2 etc use the valve service and have a inbuilt valve store while crysis may have had an external store eg sells game on steam and uses origin as the basis for the in game store.


This may be true. Developers using Steam can hyperlink to the Steam store for DLC via the overlay. MW2 for example has a menu option to purchase DLC that opens the overlay and brings up the store page with the map packs. Technically not leaving the game, but not really buying the DLC in game.

But as I've said the case seems to be conflicting terms in 2 seperate contracts with 2 different companies. Whether the terms by Valve were new or not is no longer in question. And I think I've posited a fairly solid argument showing that EA's statement of non involvement is a lie.

I don't think Valve is trying to monopolize any market with their Steam service, they just have certain terms that not all developers or publishers can abide by for reasons such as conflicting terms with those in another agreement they have with another company. In fact I'm willing to go as far as saying, probably, the terms by Valve state something like "You're responsible for keeping your games up to date and offer DLC on Steam" (Not exclusively) and the terms with this other company state "You must offer your DLC exclusively through our service". Those are 2 conflicting terms so abiding by one will by default violate the other. We know that developers using the Steamworks SDK to bring their games on to Steam are responsible for keeping their game up to date by releasing patches through Steam for Steam bought copies. This could also include a clause that says the developers are also responsible for offering DLC so that Steam bought copies offer the entire game experience DLC and all.

But the fact remains that we only have one side of the story thus far and that side comes from EA, a company known for it's intellectually void decision making. I'm still waiting for Valve to offer up their side.

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Remember when gaming was simple entertainment......... Think I'll go back to pinball.

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GutshotYooper wrote:
Remember when gaming was simple entertainment......... Think I'll go back to pinball.

Yea, I remember and I also remember that's when the gaming market crashed. Nintendo had to basically reboot the entire industry.

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Ah the" good old days" of Atari and then the "good old games" of SEGA. still got my sega mega drive II such a beast.
wtf happened to sega seriously they had the market in their palm.
MK2 and street fighter2 FTW!!!!

xXToYeDXx i think you may be on the money.
hopefully it all becomes clear soon. because using steam is just so easy and considering my 100s if not 1000s of $ of games are already with steam i dont reallly want to change.

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@jswizzy i wish i could buy BF3 for that price but living in a country that is plagued by price fixing and anti competitive behaviour i will end up having to pay $100 US ot buy it.
Australians may have awesome lifestyle but man we get hammered when it comes to anything retail. cars, cloths, games doesnt matter almost always double the price. hopefully all this "modern interwebs" will result in prices that reflect cost of importation and wages and not just exploitation.

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hopefully EA actually believe the words they spit out http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/06/the-state-of-origin/

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Heh, Origin doing something right:

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That is good i wish steam did that :(

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Somebody made a tool to move around Steam install folders and the such, but it's ridiculous that Valve hasn't implemented this yet.

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Duno if you have all seen this or not :)

http://gnews.com/ea-edge-closer-to-keep ... 115071611/

Looks like no steam for BF3 :|

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