NO. Could have said the same for Treyarch (first WAW, then BO) but the answer remains the same. IW is not what it used to be...it don't count. Respawn is a hideous joke of a developer (how else to categorize FB gaming and console focus?) that got to where it was thanks to a great game on pc that was blah, blah, blah...


Not sure I know what you mean. I was not part of the RO1 community and I have only briefly touched the TWI forums. Although I like/don't like games, I very often go with what my clan majority does. It means at times buying games I don't really enjoy or remain with for a long time. Such is clan life I guess.

My clan goes for fun first and then competetiveness for longevity. That's why COD4 has remained the mainstay of our clan. It is easy to get a match and ladders all over the place. We have a team in the RO2 opening cup and first match ended a 4-0 victory after some server issues.

BFBC2 had something like 12 client patches and 18 server patches and it still has a good number of players.

I think RO2 still has enough in it to keep the "hardcore" RO player interested. I am not so sure it will manage to retain all that many of it's new players due to what I mentioned above. For that to happen the game would really need to be silky smooth and slick...which it ain't.

@TRTL



Iv already told you this they never said that, they said soon after release and the beta SDK was out in the third week i think.....

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Easy they ran out of money... they couldn't really do anything about that being such a small indie dev team.

Even though their game was very buggy at launch i have gotten better and faster support then i got from DICE or Treyarch when their games were very buggy at release. So if anything i am more likely to buy TWI games as they have shown very good support.

and we will be getting free DLC which seems to be unheard in today's AAA games

BC2 had free DLC. COD4 had free DLC. WaW had free DLC. So not unheard of.

Well it's unheard of to Joe. Because he chooses to ignore the facts. That's why everything in that post he posted is wrong as usual.

But I wouldn't waste your time trying to explain it to him. He's just trying to post disingenuous things so he can troll.




As for a steep learning curve.. I never understood that either. Figured it was just a excuse for poor gameplay. I didn't have any trouble picking up weapons and killing people.

LOL, no I would not go as far as describing it as rocket science either. It is a combination of new keybinds (an awful lot of them too), learning how/what the objectives are and how to get them, weapons handling - not just the sliding to a halt but crouch/sprint and prone/sprint + the lenght of time it takes to reload/change weapon and hipfire which works completely differently from already mentioned BO. Agreed, BO today runs an hell of a lot smoother but that particular point was aimed at the botched release, not general gameplay.

The learning curve is a combination of the above and certainly when it comes to making points. Lots and lots of players find a nice spot and camp. Great for their k/d but useless and more so than in any other game with regards to helping your team win.

As I mentioned, we just played a match. We started off very tactically and it dragged on. Then we rushed the objectives and camped in and around it and the objectives fell one by one in quick succession. This is not casting judgement on the game but rather on the opposition. They had flanked us and waiting lol. So, "learning" the game is more complicated than...well BO for example.

The average BF/COD gamer that picks up a gun and runs will have a much harder time of it in the beginning. That's it.

Please don't drag this forum down with your comments. He may be wrong in your opinon. Just say so and leave it at that. Please.

Yes but MW3 (in the present day) will not have free DLC, BF3 i am not so sure about (back to karkand isn't for sure). And on a side note BFBC2 was mostly just map conversions, their map packs failed.... oh and being called a troll by TRTL must get me some type of medal???

As for the learning curve, this game is harder for me then BO. In BO i just run around and shoot everyone its to easy for me and i don't feel for filled. RO2 it is harder in RO2 you feel like a person when sprinting, not usain bolt on speed like in COD. You skid to a halt after running because a person wearing a big pack would skid to a halt, or else he would fall arse over tit

Technically WaW didn't have free DLC. The only reason PC gamers didn't have to pay for it is because Nvidia (think it was them) sponsored the pack.

Anyway, I have jumped back into playing RO2 now and again. It's probably because I love playing with the bolt rifles and TE is fun. When people talk about the learning curve I don't think that is what its about. It's about patience. The machine guns have a lot more recoil than other titles such as CoD or BF so when coming up at an enemy you can't just aim and hold the mouse button down. That doesn't work especially from mid-range. You need to be patient with your shots.

RO2 like it's predecessor is a niche game to most. While I like to an extent, it's not a game for me that I can see me playing hours on end. It's more like TF2 to me, not in the style of game for obvious reasons, but that I will most likely play it from time-to-time. Some may have bought because of it being a PC only title but at the end of the day, for some reason or another, they didn't fully enjoy it.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/06 ... -detailed/



They did convert 3-4 maps to all gametypes. But they also released 3 new maps for free. Their map packs didn't fail at all, because they were all free. You could run them on your servers and everyone had them.


Not sure about that..
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